EI live: Ilan Pappé on the inevitable demise of Israeli society
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Join the Electronic Intifada livestream this afternoon for our ongoing coverage of the Israeli genocide in Gaza, and the Palestinian resistance to it.
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This afternoon’s lineup:
We’ll have reaction and analysis to the breaking new of Israel’s assassination of Palestinian political leader Ismail Haniyeh.
Dissident Israeli historian Ilan Pappe will join us to talk about his latest book (on the Israel lobby) as well as about the recent state of near civil war inside Israeli society, as one faction riots for the right to rape Palestinian prisoners.
Jon Elmer will give us all the latest new on the resistance in Gaza.
We’ll open with a news roundup by Nora Barrows-Friedman, and we’ll have a group discussion and viewers’ comments at the end of the show.
Timezones: 19:00 Palestine / 17:00 BST / 18:00 CET / 11:00 CT / 12:00 ET / 9:00 PT
If you miss the broadcast live, you will be able to watch it back in the video above.
Thank you. I count myself among those who have moved away from mainstream media as a result of not seeing my morals reflected. In my case it’s been long overdue.
Would you please invite Ilan Papé back to elaborate on the discrete processes he mentions (@ approx. 1hr,20mins)? What are they? How do we participate? Examples of how these processes have played out in the past would be instructive.
It's sadly, and perhaps even shamefully, true that while some peoples have been brutally victimized throughout history a disproportionately large number of times, the victims of one place and time can and sometimes do become the victimizers of another place and time.
People should avoid believing, let alone claiming, that they are not capable of committing an atrocity, even if relentlessly pushed. Contrary to what is claimed or felt by many of us, deep down there’s a potential monster in each of us that, under the just-right circumstances, can be unleashed — and maybe even more so when convinced that ‘God's on our side'.
Living, breathing and greatly suffering people on this atrocity-prone planet are [consciously or subconsciously] perceived as not being of equal value or worth to everyone else, when morally they all definitely should be.
Meanwhile, with each news report of the daily death toll from unrelenting bombardment, I feel a slightly greater desensitization and resignation. I’ve noticed this disturbing effect with basically all major protracted conflicts internationally since I began regularly consuming news products in 1987.
Human beings can actually be seen and treated as though they are disposable and, by extension, their suffering and death are somehow less worthy of external concern, sometimes even by otherwise democratic and relatively civilized nations.
In other words, the worth of such life will be measured by its overabundance and/or the protracted conditions under which it suffers; and those people can eventually receive meagre column inches on the back page of the First World’s daily news. It’s an immoral consideration of ‘quality of life’.