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Vicki Nikolaidis's avatar

Funding terrorists with the people's money.

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Alec's avatar

Zecharia Deutsch "What Israel is trying to do is to destroy the evil – which is the most moral thing possible.”

Ron Unz 'Holocaust Denial' "the Jewish community seems to contain far more than its fair share of the emotionally disturbed and the mentally ill"

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MS M E JOHNSON's avatar

That is hardly surprising, given the background of the Holocaust and the way that many families existing today are direct descendents of those who suffered atrocious treatment in the concentration camps. Many have been brought up on stories from The Passover onward of disasters and maltreatment by people from other religious and tribal backgrounds. The Survivors of the camps passed on their suffering to their children and their children's children with such instructions such as "Always keep a suitcase in the hall." As Margaret Hodge told everyone who cared to listen on TV. When you are brought up in an atmosphere of us and them and constantly being on your guard it does not take a lot to push reason out of the window.

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Lena's avatar

You are mistaken, very few Israeli Jewish citizens are Holocaust survivors and they are dismissed, live in abject poverty and spat on. Holocaust narrative is only for the West. You should read Tom Segev's The Seventh Million, what exactly Jewish colonizers in Palestine did to Holocaust survivors when they arrived. Zionists have never been persecuted by Nazis, on the contrary, it was a fruitful collaboration. None of the first Israeli cabinet was a Holocaust survivor.

To believe that Israel has anything to do with Holocaust, is a grave mistake. It is falling for Spielberg.

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MS M E JOHNSON's avatar

If you read my comment again you will see that I did not write holocaust survivors but decendents, their children and childrens children. I am aware of the relationship between Zionists and Nazis. There were Zionists before the Nazis existed. In fact as early as the 1840s. The Nazis limited what could be taken out of the country, to a little money/gold and furniture. It seems obvious to me that as the Nazis legislated to limit what wealth could be taken out of the country, they were aware that wealth was concentrated within certain areas and there was a danger that the country could be put into an even worse situation than they were already. I don't have Tom Segev's The Seventh Million. I shall try to find a copy.

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Global Fightback's avatar

Interesting points. Have you ever read the Timeline Of The Rothschilds, available in various places around the Web, and if so, what do you make of it? It's fascinating reading but difficult to substantiate much of it. The writer makes a big claim about the Rothschilds being of Ashkenazi descent and therefore not genuine Jews, then goes on to illustrate how their control of much of the world's capital has been a major geopolitical/socioeconomic stresspoint for over a century.

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Lena's avatar

There is no such thing as "genuine Jews", just as there is no such thing as "genuine jazz musician". Jewishness is not a race, it used to be defined by religion, but post-Enlightenment it is now defined by combination of factors: ancestry (Judaic ancestors), self-identity combined with how the community identifies you, cultural traditions, cuisine, rituals.

Nobody is a "genuine Jew" anymore - or you can say that only people of Judaic faith are real Jews and the rest are just self-identified historical remnants of former Jewish communities.

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MS M E JOHNSON's avatar

DNA examination says otherwise. There is mixed heritage as with every other population that has migrated through put the world but certain markers identify where our ancestors have come from. Faith is only one componant of identification and faith/ belief/religion can change, rather more quickly than DNA loses identity.

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Global Fightback's avatar

Thanks for your reply.

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MS M E JOHNSON's avatar

My knowledge of the various branches of Jewry is limited. My understanding is that Ashkanazi are descendents of Jews who travelled to Europe, further North and to the North Eastern parts of Europe. While the Sephardic Jews came from those settled in the region of Spain and Portugal. Mizrahi Jews are Jews who remained in the Levant region and North Africa. The Names are tied into the genetic codes of DNA. that show how various peoples have intermingled with local populations through Marriage. The Rothschilds were European Jews, They dominated banking for some time but have diversified into other industries. You can find their current day business activities on the net.

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I Know Nothing's avatar

People whe went through the Holocaust never hardly talked about it. Anyway, if someone is a genocidal ghoul due to brainwashing, they aren't absolved from moral responsibility

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PerraVerde's avatar

Yes ok, but wtf has that trauma got to do with the original inhabitants of PALESTINE (which was only subsequently declared the state of Israel) What did the palestinians ever do to these people?

And why do the israelis (many of whom are Ashkenazis) believe this is their home when they are descendents of steppe-dwellers and not mediterranean?

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MS M E JOHNSON's avatar

There is more than one question here Q1. ans. The Palestinians did not declare themselves to be Israel they resisted it, from the beginning. Never the less it was imposed by the League of Nations (precursor to the UNITED NATIONS (U.N.) and Britain became the instrument of imposing it, as the British were in the area at the time, and Balfour (stupidly in my opinion) had made a declaration that a home should be made for Jews in the area.

Q2.ans.The Palestinians some of whom are Jews themselves and some Christians as well as Muslims stayed put in the area, while others left for pastures new, a classic case of the grass is always greener in the next field. The Palestinians were and are therefore in the way of The Zionists who's declared intention is to repopulate the area. "From the river to the sea." as an excusively Jewish area known as Israel, an area which has developed its own culture over thousands of years, by removing the current population with the justification of the Old Testiment declaration that they would be given a land filled with milk and honey for their own use, as the chosen people of God. Translations differ but that is the essence from the TORA and TALMUD. This writing is full of the disputes and machinations, the bloody battles seiges and rapes, the mistreatment and killings that involved the Jewish and other populations of the area at the time. I am not sure if the original script mentions a name of a river or of a sea. I do not know Hebrew not many people do outside of the Jewish population and the only friend I knew as a Hebrew expert died two years ago so I cannot check. As with many people religion is used as justification of imposing the will of the elite on those they subjugate and persuade to their cause. The Zionists in Europe were the wealthy who wished to remove their wealth and status to Palestine which they saw as an ancestral home, but at the time it was ruled by the Turks, THE OTTOMANS. So the short answer is they were in the way of a great many ambitions ,including the Zionists.

Traumatised people often pass on their trauma to other people ,That is not limited to their own families but spreads out to contact with other people and Nations. ie People who have migrated because of war, refugees, often have mental health problems. People who have been collectively traumatised through oppression and persecution also suffer mentally, and pass on their stories through and down the family line creating fear and anger against other sections of society. EG. anyone who is not a Jew. They can then cut themselves off from the rest of society until they are strong enough to attempt to assert themselves into the society they are enclosed by. Unfortunately throughout history we can see the oppressed turn into the oppressor.

Q3. ans. While many Jews Migrated to other areas/countries long before borders were invented and intermarried with the local populations. They have DNA from both areas not just one that goes back along generations to the areas their ancesters originated from.

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PerraVerde's avatar

My bad, I didn't mean it to read like the Palestinians declared their state to be Israel. It was the brits and the Jews that decided that.

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MS M E JOHNSON's avatar

It is very easy to make mistakes in writing down what we are actually thinking our brains work so much quicker than fingers and we tend to make shortcuts to keep up.

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Davina's avatar

My reading was that Israel, the man loved by God for obeying his laws, was to be brought to a land of plenty. Not to make a country together named "Israel". Only that man, Israel, and his offspring, not the other tribes "the wandering jews" who were never to find a home because they broke God's laws, which the Israel's are still doing and bringing others to do the same. Maybe the Israelis are, in fact, the Ameleks bringing their country Israel into devestation.

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Alec's avatar

Margaret Hodge who publicly praised Jeremy Corbyn for having been the only London MP to bring carloads of supporters to help her canvas against BNP

She lead the antisemitism screeching submitting 100 examples of antisemitism of which 98 were dismissed

Hodge is a treacherous snake

@ronunz Jews have a history of fraud and lying

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MS M E JOHNSON's avatar

I have to agree with both statements. However we should always remember that snakes only bite when they feel threatened or are in need of food to sustain them. They mostly wriggle away under cover. As for your final line. All sections of society have a history of fraud and lying when it suits them, not forgetting torture and killing. We only have to look at the history of Britain to see that in a span of very short years the Throne, and Church supporting it, tortured and burned victims from the Catholic and Protestant churches as the throne changed from one person to another. Thomas Moor who was sainted by the Catholic Church Personally tortured and supervised torture and was later imprisoned and killed himself when Henry the eigth decided he wanted a different wife and created a new Church of England because the Pope and Wolsley would not acquiesce. Killing all and sundry who would not agree to conform, seizing their lands and the lands of Abbeys Monastries and Nunneries, which had become too powerful and rich for his liking. Then there is the issue of Witch Hunts which is mostly, a mysogonystic perseute, to settle scores and steal land while at the same time appropriating(herbal) medicine for exclusive use by The Church.

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Alec's avatar

Jews claim they were chosen by God Christians don't

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MS M E JOHNSON's avatar

Maybe they dont claim to have been chosen by God but They are told that the God they worship is the one true god and that only they( whichever Church they belong to will) get to heaven. I was brought up as a Roman Catholic so I know first hand. this is not much different to what the Jewish religion claims except Christians dont lay claim to whole countries in the name of religion (Christ) anymore as they did in the past.

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Alec's avatar

Most cobras are very aggressive and will attack without provocation.

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MS M E JOHNSON's avatar

You see it as aggression but for a Cobra to strike out, something has to be within, or close to, striking distance. Before striking a cobra will raise its body and hood to make itself look larger and act as a warning. When walking in the countryside in Britain you will hardly ever see a snake because they feel the vibration of footsteps and hide away in the undergrowth.

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Global Fightback's avatar

Yes, and there are records in Hansard that show 19 (from memory) occasions where Jeremy voted for motions that supported Jewish causes (I will try and provide a link if you require).

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MS M E JOHNSON's avatar

Jeremy was betrayed by the Labour Party from Day One of his leadership by more than Margaret Hodge and the Conservative Press and BBC took full advantage. It did not stop at Jeremy as we all know the witch hunt went through the whole of the left wing of the Party and continues to this day.

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Global Fightback's avatar

I agree with what you're saying but the point here is the way the anti-Semitism card was made to stick on him when it was patently untrue, not just by Hodge but other prominent Jews, and of course, regardless of what other Labour members were targeted, the stakes were much higher with Jeremy in the run-up to the Election. The BBC laid their cards on the the table when, two days before the Election, Radio 4's lead story in their lunchtime news was a prominent rabbi criticising Jeremy. That was scandalous imo so close to the Election, a lead story blown up out of proportion, and I will never forgive them for it.

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MS M E JOHNSON's avatar

Absolutely! The antisemitism accusation is a very powerful weapon as most of us have been brought up with an inherrent sense of guilt if we have a Christian background. The BBC has played that tune very often and by this I mean it literally, as they have added music to documentaries, which have no need of music except to affect mood. I decided some years ago to throw off the cloak of guilt that had been thrown over not just me but the whole of Britain with regard to Jewry and Slavery. Most of our ancestors, were not involved in any way of the mistreatment of people, but were oppressed, educated only to the level necessary for others to make use of us. Norman French and then German was the language of our masters They would speak in those languages when they had private conversations and feel secure thinking that servants would not understand. Royalty and the Church went into meltdown when the Bible was translated from the Greek and Latin in to the common languages of the people. Wars were faught. Religion has always been used to control the people by the powerful, so the language used in religion was different to the common language and still is today. It was the late 1800s before the ordinary people of the country were educated formally in any way (in the penny schools) The aristocracy (conquering race) were terrified that their facade of superiority would be torn away with the wrappings of the book covers, if the ordinary people could read and pass knowledge on in print. Now we have the miracle of the internet and video. The problem is, as always, that the elite try to tell us that black is white, when we know that black is actually made up of many colours, as is the truth, not just one entity.

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Alec's avatar

Me too

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Joni Boyle's avatar

Your being very kind in your description.

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Lena's avatar

What this Deutsch ("German") said, is exactly what serial sadist rapists say. That they cleanse the Earth from evil.

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Global Fightback's avatar

Aaron Kosminski is now considered prime suspect in the Jack The Ripper murders, there is dna linking him, or at least some member of his family to the crime scene of his fourth victim, and a photograph of his brother in a group of freemasons that supports claims elsewhere that there was a masonic cover-up by playing the antisemitism card. Kosminski spent his final years in an asylum. Search for articles published in the Daily Fail for these stories. You can get past the paywall by opening the article and then immediately turning off your internet connection before the paywall comes up.

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Debbie Lawrence's avatar

Zechariah Deutsch was reported many times last year, and he’s still in a position to influence students. Unbelievable

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Denise Ellenberger's avatar

Asa, this is third party complicity with Israeli war crimes. According to the U.N. position paper Oct 18, 2024, chapter V. We need lawyers to go at it.

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Roger Hoffmann's avatar

Thanks for this important report. The only way that the decent part of humanity (which I believe is most people) will know of this evil and demand an end to its support is to continue writing and speaking about it. It's an uphill battle to be sure... there is so much momentum, money and power wedded to Zionist dreams and it seems like the established elites of almost every western state are fully on board with them. Yet if we continue shining light on it all, maybe the truth will awaken the people enough to stop the horror.

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Global Fightback's avatar

Yes, I agree.

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Global Fightback's avatar

Both major UK Parties are in the pockets of the Zionists.

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Rod Dawson's avatar

But, but, but. If the British government's support for the racist genocide in Palestine proves anything, it must surely be that it supports racism. It is so in favour of racist ethnic cleansing, it actively rewards its perpetrators. Rather than defend an indigenous people, it sends weapons, money and a moral carte blanche to help an apartheid regime in its racist slaughter. As its own actions show, the British government is demonstrably pro-racism. Why, then, should we be surprised that it would channel funds into the UJC? Because - Good Gracious! - the money's meant to stop racism! Not the Good Racism, of course, that leads to radicalisation, ethnic cleansing and genocide, only the kind that might offend some of the wealthiest, most comfortable and most accomplished people in Britain. Anti-Semitism. Racism, but given its own name so it can be targeted while the rest is allowed. Staunchly defended. How lovely and reassuring to have a government that is a little bit anti-racist.

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Global Fightback's avatar

You've hit the nail on the head I think. I believe that it ultimately comes down to money, and the influence said money has in the corridors of power. The money governments can make selling weaponry is one aspect. But far larger I believe is the fact that so many pro-Zionist jews have insinuated themselves into powerful positions at the top of major organisations and corporations globally that they have undue leverage in a socio-economic system based around the inherently corrupt device of capitalism. Capitalism is, imo, a major part of the problem, and as long as it governs socio-political systems money will always talk. The Zionists have this down to a fine art. This isn't democracy, it's #demockracy. I suspect that the only thing that's going to change this is to 'disenfranchise' vested-interest political parties and instate genuine democracies, of, for and by the people.

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Davina's avatar

You have to remember this current zionism has been at work since 1900 when they chose a convicted criminal, who became a Jewish convert on release, to be the name on the front of the Scofeld's Reference Bible, through which the bible like was changed to suit their purposes and given to graduate pastors(evangelicals) in America, who then spread the word for the zionists. Each subsequent edition changed more and more of the bible, Schofield's name also changed slightly to more Anglicised as more editions were produced, and odd thing about it is that Schofield was claimed to be the editor fifty years, I believe, after his death.

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Julie Anne's avatar

It's extra important that religious belief is put under a critical secular microscope. Zionists believe in the war for Greater Israel drawn from interpretation of Torah etc. RW Christians believe that Jesus will return upon Zionist capture of the Greater Israel, based on their interpretation of New Testament Revelations. So you have the hideous web of Christion-Zionist belief (and particularly US/Israel followers) that has always led to this genocide. A violent political imperialist drive, particularly active from mid 1800s and gaining excessive strength at the discovery of huge petroleum resources in the Mid East from that time onwards. Thanks for the detailed look at a hugely immoral example of religious indoctrination, manufactured of course for big finance wanting the usual "spoils of war".

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Global Fightback's avatar

Agreed. Humanity needs to move away from blind religious ideology and towards genuine spirituality, and we need to do it fast.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

We cannot allow Israel to escape the legal consequences of their war crimes. The Hind Rajab Foundation has, among other things, filed a case with the ICC against 1,000 Israeli soldiers for war crimes in Gaza.

https://www.hindrajabfoundation.org/perpetrators/hind-rajab-foundation-files-historic-icc-complaint-against-1000-israeli-soldiers-for-war-crimes-in-gaza

They have taken further steps in recent days, and vacations are becoming a lot more difficult for IDF soldiers, worldwide. The Hind Rajab Foundation can use our help. Please join me in making a contribution.

https://buy.stripe.com/cN228hbY5g7jaM84gg

You might find meaningful to watch the recent interviews that Glenn Greenwald did on his Rumble platform, and Ali Abunimah of the Electronic Intifada, did with the head of this organisation, Dyad Abou Jahjah. It was very informative.

Here's a petition calling for accountability for the arrest of Ali Abunimah in Switzerland:

https://chng.it/8D4pkxPhWS

Please sign the petition and share widely.

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Minime's avatar

Zionists are a cult of hate

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PSadd's avatar

Zionism is a cancer.

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Neghet khan's avatar

shocking and disturbing- thank you for making us aware

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Nizami XIII's avatar

Are these names on the list submitted to the Met Police?

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Jeff Story's avatar

In a rare moment of shame Israeli leader explains plans to execute Gazan minors. He felt the need to explain this in secret meeting for some reason. To oppose child murder by firing squad is Antisemitic of course!

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-envoy-austria-suggests-executing-minors-gaza-secret-recording

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I Know Nothing's avatar

The Jewish community overwhelmingly support the genocide

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