This is about Iran. Russia got in the say of the US/Israel/Nato plan of 7 countries in 5 years when they allied with Syria. The end game of the 7 in 5 was Iran. They realized they could have neither without Russia/Putin out of the way. We have also figured out that extreme nationalists are quite useful to Empire. They die for nations Empire doesn’t really care about save to exploit to it’s end. We do this all over the world and US politicians do it all the time offering them nothing but some lie of glory in a nation that betrayed them and little else.
I joined this group to support Palestine but it’s becoming very pro Putin
I dont like this blanket “all Ukrainians are Nazis” & they somehow deserve to die .
I don’t support Zelensky & his two faced Zionism , but he did NOT come to power in a coup ( he got a landslide majority ) ….just as I don’t support all Hamas does & I certainly don’t support Abbas’s collaborating PA Authority but the will of the Ukrainian people is irrefutably for self determination and if we support Palestinian self determination musnt we support Ukrainian?
3 million Ukrainians died under the real Nazis remember . Of course there were collaborators as there always are ; many Palestinians collaborate with the IDF as their refugees tell us . But nobody has come up with a higher figure than 2000 neo Nazis out of a population of 44 million and they’ve never gained any political representation. There are neo Nazi Dombass separatists & let’s not even mention Putins private psycho army the Wagner battalion which is stuffed with white supremacists and fascists
It’s Putin and his misguided imperialist adventurism who’s to blame for NATOs massive resurgence
I've no idea where your “all Ukrainians are Nazis” quote comes from, but it's certainly not from me. This just looks like a very weak straw man.
I find your assertion that accurately reporting on the presence of Ukrainian Nazis in Israel (as I have done) amounts to being "pro-Putin" incredibly misleading. I notice that you don't contest any of the facts in my article. And you don't seem to have read it properly. Nowhere does it say Zelensky came to power in a coup. The only coup it mentions is "the 2014 US-backed 'Maidan' coup".
It does mention the fact that anti-feminist Azov activist Yulia Fedosiuk herself says she is a parliamentary advisor for Zelensky's political party.
I think you need to read a bit. Ukraine is DOMINATED by Banderistas. Look at the insignia on their uniforms. General Zhaluzhnyi's hero is Stefan Bandera: he has a pictuire of Bandera in his office behind his desk. Be objective and study. https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/the-ukraine-lobby
read a bit” are normally what I get from arguing with Zionist fanatics! . It’s because I do actually read a hell of a lot that I object to childish generalisations and sweeping statements that can lead to an acceptance of war crimes from armchair activists because theyre trying to twist facts into suiting their political agenda .
I agree Bandera is lauded by Zhalujny and many others but it was Zelensky who refused the reinstatement of his awards from Yuschenko and who fired his ambassador to Germany for being a Banderite
I’m fed up reading again and again from the semi literate that Zelensky took power in the 2014 coup and that he hero worships Bandera
He did try to ban Azov who threatened his life but again thanks to the cretinous Putin they became national saviours
You don’t nod through the wholesale blitzkriegs on Ukrainian working class communities because you don’t like the fascistic badges on some Azov soldiers ( now all removed ) in the East
All I’m saying is read EVERYTHING and unfortunately for those like yourself who need a simplistic world view this is not black and white : goodies and baddies . It’s complex
Look at Anton Rayevsky with his Hitler tattoo , look at the Russian Imperial Legion , and Rusich with their Swastikas and Nazi salutes … and you totally sidestep the Wagner battalion I see . I condemn Zelenskys Slava Ukraine salute but I condemn neo Nazis on all sides … which YOU clearly don’t
Could I suggest that you read 'Frontline Ukraine' by Richard Sakwa (the acknowledged 'expert' on Ukrainian political history) to get an appreciation of the real conflict in Ukraine. Your noddy view is simply wrong. The book was published BEFORE the Russian intervention. What is however abundatly clear and even acknowledged by US Generals now is that this is a PROXY war between Russia and the USA (and its vile acolyte our dear old blighty) - and if you support the USA you are on the wrong side.
And not every separatist in the Dombass wants to be “ Novorossia “ remember ! They want neither Russian or Ukrainian domination . And read Human Rights Watch on their history of torture and judicial execution
There is nothing in this article that is unsubstantiated. It may discuss things you don't want to hear but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be printed or that it is untrue.
If you feel that you want to support Palestine, the first thing you have to realize is that Israel is a racist, fascist state that has aligned with other racists for many years. In the past they have also treated Al Nusra fighters when they were wounded in Syria, so this article is no surprise. This is what Israel does, it makes no secret of it but after extensive proof of their actions they deny it. Because they can.
I’ve been supporting Palestinian liberation since the 1980s when i lived briefly in Israel . I’m aware also of Israel’s close links with Putins oligarchs and where they hid their yachts and their huge assets . It’s why Israel has been so on the fence with Ukraine .. crawling up the backsides of both Putin and Zelensky … who hypocritically supports the occupation of Palestine ……
But that’s Israel : ethics never got in the way of financial advantage
I don’t need lectures on the evils of Zionist Israel : neither do.I need them on the gangster capitalist supremo Putin
Much as I’d love to make simplistic value judgments and follow the herd and sleep easy at night ,I retain the right to condemn neo Nazism on both sides and to blame Putins idiocy in making NATO stronger than it could ever dreamt of being ….
Well, I guess you'll be in for a big surprise when Nato and the dollar fall because the world is sick and tired of US hegemony and Empire. For a veteran Palestine supporter you sure sound like a beginner. The only gangster capitalist and for that matter, the truly evil empire is the US, and it's falling fast. We can only hope this portends the end of Israel.
I am becoming more and more aware through investigative journalism of yourself and others that world powers seem to have no problem with Fascism. It makes me wonder why World War 2 happened. Was it really about weakening two world powers the UK, and Russia, and the poor Jewish people were mere pawns? Is the Ukraine /Russia war all about weakening Russia further so that it can’t be a reliable ally for China, and the poor Ukrainian people are mere pawns? Will we the people of the world wake up before it is too late?
Putin surely should have never invaded though should he ? He walked right into the Wests trap and now Nato is stronger than ever . I feel he could have negotiated Dombass territory but he was advised to go for all Ukraine . Tens of thousands of Russians are dying in this pointless war as well as all the poorer sectors of Ukraine and within Russia there is no freedom at all
You are so misinformed it’s pointless to try to get you to see what’s the actual history of this war using Ukraine to destroy Russia.
It’s true that Zelensky was voted into office by a large majority after he ran on making peace with the people in the Donbas who refused to accept the consequences of America’s brutal coup in 2014. Since then over 14,000 Ukrainians living there have been murdered and the reason Russia crossed the border was to stop the massive attack that Ukraine was doing. If Russia goes home like pro Ukraine people want the massacre will continue. Are you aware that Ukraine has continued bombing civilians in the Donbas and not targeting the military? They just bombed a church during Easter services.
This is about Iran. Russia got in the say of the US/Israel/Nato plan of 7 countries in 5 years when they allied with Syria. The end game of the 7 in 5 was Iran. They realized they could have neither without Russia/Putin out of the way. We have also figured out that extreme nationalists are quite useful to Empire. They die for nations Empire doesn’t really care about save to exploit to it’s end. We do this all over the world and US politicians do it all the time offering them nothing but some lie of glory in a nation that betrayed them and little else.
I joined this group to support Palestine but it’s becoming very pro Putin
I dont like this blanket “all Ukrainians are Nazis” & they somehow deserve to die .
I don’t support Zelensky & his two faced Zionism , but he did NOT come to power in a coup ( he got a landslide majority ) ….just as I don’t support all Hamas does & I certainly don’t support Abbas’s collaborating PA Authority but the will of the Ukrainian people is irrefutably for self determination and if we support Palestinian self determination musnt we support Ukrainian?
3 million Ukrainians died under the real Nazis remember . Of course there were collaborators as there always are ; many Palestinians collaborate with the IDF as their refugees tell us . But nobody has come up with a higher figure than 2000 neo Nazis out of a population of 44 million and they’ve never gained any political representation. There are neo Nazi Dombass separatists & let’s not even mention Putins private psycho army the Wagner battalion which is stuffed with white supremacists and fascists
It’s Putin and his misguided imperialist adventurism who’s to blame for NATOs massive resurgence
I've no idea where your “all Ukrainians are Nazis” quote comes from, but it's certainly not from me. This just looks like a very weak straw man.
I find your assertion that accurately reporting on the presence of Ukrainian Nazis in Israel (as I have done) amounts to being "pro-Putin" incredibly misleading. I notice that you don't contest any of the facts in my article. And you don't seem to have read it properly. Nowhere does it say Zelensky came to power in a coup. The only coup it mentions is "the 2014 US-backed 'Maidan' coup".
It does mention the fact that anti-feminist Azov activist Yulia Fedosiuk herself says she is a parliamentary advisor for Zelensky's political party.
I think you need to read a bit. Ukraine is DOMINATED by Banderistas. Look at the insignia on their uniforms. General Zhaluzhnyi's hero is Stefan Bandera: he has a pictuire of Bandera in his office behind his desk. Be objective and study. https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/the-ukraine-lobby
These patronising comments “ you need to
read a bit” are normally what I get from arguing with Zionist fanatics! . It’s because I do actually read a hell of a lot that I object to childish generalisations and sweeping statements that can lead to an acceptance of war crimes from armchair activists because theyre trying to twist facts into suiting their political agenda .
I agree Bandera is lauded by Zhalujny and many others but it was Zelensky who refused the reinstatement of his awards from Yuschenko and who fired his ambassador to Germany for being a Banderite
I’m fed up reading again and again from the semi literate that Zelensky took power in the 2014 coup and that he hero worships Bandera
He did try to ban Azov who threatened his life but again thanks to the cretinous Putin they became national saviours
You don’t nod through the wholesale blitzkriegs on Ukrainian working class communities because you don’t like the fascistic badges on some Azov soldiers ( now all removed ) in the East
All I’m saying is read EVERYTHING and unfortunately for those like yourself who need a simplistic world view this is not black and white : goodies and baddies . It’s complex
Look at Anton Rayevsky with his Hitler tattoo , look at the Russian Imperial Legion , and Rusich with their Swastikas and Nazi salutes … and you totally sidestep the Wagner battalion I see . I condemn Zelenskys Slava Ukraine salute but I condemn neo Nazis on all sides … which YOU clearly don’t
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Could I suggest that you read 'Frontline Ukraine' by Richard Sakwa (the acknowledged 'expert' on Ukrainian political history) to get an appreciation of the real conflict in Ukraine. Your noddy view is simply wrong. The book was published BEFORE the Russian intervention. What is however abundatly clear and even acknowledged by US Generals now is that this is a PROXY war between Russia and the USA (and its vile acolyte our dear old blighty) - and if you support the USA you are on the wrong side.
And not every separatist in the Dombass wants to be “ Novorossia “ remember ! They want neither Russian or Ukrainian domination . And read Human Rights Watch on their history of torture and judicial execution
There is nothing in this article that is unsubstantiated. It may discuss things you don't want to hear but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be printed or that it is untrue.
If you feel that you want to support Palestine, the first thing you have to realize is that Israel is a racist, fascist state that has aligned with other racists for many years. In the past they have also treated Al Nusra fighters when they were wounded in Syria, so this article is no surprise. This is what Israel does, it makes no secret of it but after extensive proof of their actions they deny it. Because they can.
https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Israel-treating-al-Qaida-fighters-wounded-in-Syria-civil-war-393862
https://www.mintpressnews.com/israel-reconfirms-commitment-to-treating-wounded-syrian-al-nusra-fighters/226714/
I’ve been supporting Palestinian liberation since the 1980s when i lived briefly in Israel . I’m aware also of Israel’s close links with Putins oligarchs and where they hid their yachts and their huge assets . It’s why Israel has been so on the fence with Ukraine .. crawling up the backsides of both Putin and Zelensky … who hypocritically supports the occupation of Palestine ……
But that’s Israel : ethics never got in the way of financial advantage
I don’t need lectures on the evils of Zionist Israel : neither do.I need them on the gangster capitalist supremo Putin
Much as I’d love to make simplistic value judgments and follow the herd and sleep easy at night ,I retain the right to condemn neo Nazism on both sides and to blame Putins idiocy in making NATO stronger than it could ever dreamt of being ….
Well, I guess you'll be in for a big surprise when Nato and the dollar fall because the world is sick and tired of US hegemony and Empire. For a veteran Palestine supporter you sure sound like a beginner. The only gangster capitalist and for that matter, the truly evil empire is the US, and it's falling fast. We can only hope this portends the end of Israel.
I am becoming more and more aware through investigative journalism of yourself and others that world powers seem to have no problem with Fascism. It makes me wonder why World War 2 happened. Was it really about weakening two world powers the UK, and Russia, and the poor Jewish people were mere pawns? Is the Ukraine /Russia war all about weakening Russia further so that it can’t be a reliable ally for China, and the poor Ukrainian people are mere pawns? Will we the people of the world wake up before it is too late?
Putin surely should have never invaded though should he ? He walked right into the Wests trap and now Nato is stronger than ever . I feel he could have negotiated Dombass territory but he was advised to go for all Ukraine . Tens of thousands of Russians are dying in this pointless war as well as all the poorer sectors of Ukraine and within Russia there is no freedom at all
You are so misinformed it’s pointless to try to get you to see what’s the actual history of this war using Ukraine to destroy Russia.
It’s true that Zelensky was voted into office by a large majority after he ran on making peace with the people in the Donbas who refused to accept the consequences of America’s brutal coup in 2014. Since then over 14,000 Ukrainians living there have been murdered and the reason Russia crossed the border was to stop the massive attack that Ukraine was doing. If Russia goes home like pro Ukraine people want the massacre will continue. Are you aware that Ukraine has continued bombing civilians in the Donbas and not targeting the military? They just bombed a church during Easter services.
Because of course Ukraine never could have complied with the Minsk Accord, much less Minsk-2.